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PostPosted: 07 Mar 2005, 06:54 
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I received this at work today, a very interesting read but nothing I would distribute to non-USAF individuals. If you are interested in a copy, please <u><b>PM me your .MIL email address</b></u>. Unless I know you personally and know you should see this document, I will not send it to any other email accounts. I apologize to anyone who is offended by that, but tough shit! <img src=newicons/saevil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Here is the statement that came with the document:

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Attached is a 135 page report by the Air Force (the CSAF's Task Force Enduring Look, of which I was a adhoc member of) on Operation ANACONDA. This is the fruit of a study directed by the CSAF to analyze the hard lessons learned from this battle which led to the first heavy casualties in OEF (8 Americans died, including two airmen, and over 80 wounded).

The fact that this operation was planned without input from the JFACC and his staff cannot be overlooked. The JFACC was not made aware of this operation until 5 days before the Operation was scheduled to kick-off. But the JFACC was flexible, but could have been more effective, with a "Joint Plan" had they been brought in sooner.

The hard lessons are "the critical importance of unity of command" and "views of the most efficient use and application of airpower differed significantly". These lessons lead to the development and employment of the ACE (Air Coordination Elements) from the JFACC HQ to the other components, during OIF, to ensure there is a proper and realistic understanding of how airpower should be applied.

This is a pretty good report, and one I highly recommend we all read. It is a testament to the men in the battle who overcame difficult terrain, a very under-rated adversary (the Army G-2 report is scalding on the shortcomings of the IPB assessment), and "Murphy's Law" to make this, in the end, a successful operation.....Check-six, Pepe<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

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"RickUSN-

That was intelligent and useful Mudd.

But it certainly is what Ive come to expect.

Mindless babbling with no intent to either enlighten or inform.


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Thanks for the report M2, haven't had a chance to read it all but, it does look interesting!

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I wouldn't mind reading that as well.


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Heard this author being interviewed tonight on the radio--
--following copied from amazon books:

Not a Good Day to Die : The Untold Story of Operation Anaconda
by Sean Naylor

Product Description:

Command refused to commit the forces required to achieve total victory in Afghanistan. Instead, they delegated responsibility for fighting the war's biggest battle-one that could have broken Al Qaeda and captured Osama bin Laden-to a hodge-podge of units thrown together at the last moment.

At dawn on March 2, 2002, America's first major battle of the 21st century began. Over 200 soldiers of the 101st Airborne and 10th Mountain Divisions flew into Afghanistan's Shahikot valley-and into the mouth of a buzz saw. They were about to pay a bloody price for strategic, higher-level miscalculations that underestimated the enemy's strength and willingness to fight.

Now, award-winning journalist Sean Naylor, an eyewitness to the battle, details the failures of military intelligence and planning, and vividly portrays the astonishing heroism of these young, untested U.S. soldiers. Denied the extra infantry, artillery, and attack helicopters with which they trained to go to war, these troops nevertheless proved their worth in brutal combat and-along with the exceptional daring of a small team of U.S. commandos-prevented an American military disaster.


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No comment 'til I finish reading it...

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Finally got the chance to finish it. It's a wonder the outcome wasn't worse. The potential was certainly there.

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Have it, and am in the process of getting through it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Unless I know you personally and know you should see this document, I will not send it to any other email accounts. I apologize to anyone who is offended by that, but tough shit! <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Actually, if you didnt encrypt it when you emailed it, outside the MIL email network, then you have sent it to no fewer then 500 others, who took a look at it during the trnsmission, and if you sent it a yahoo address, triple that estimate...


CAG out...


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