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I'm in the process of re-reading Smallwood's book and I started to wonder, with all the changes and history that's been added to the 'Hog Saga' if there's anything more recent that's out (publically). I've seen a couple of 'Osprey' books on F-15s in Kosovo/Afghanistan/Iraq but haven't seen anything on the A-10.

Am I not looking in the right place or is all this still a good story that's waiting to be told.


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There are a couple out you need to read, one is free of the internet (don't have the URL at the moment) about the Hawg during the Kosovo conflect. The other one is titled "The Warthog and the close air support debate", I don't have the authors name handy because I let someone borrow my copy. let me look around and I'll get you the author and the URL for the free book.

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http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/aupress/cat ... un_B90.htm

It's a great read!

Also, coming soon, a new one from Don Logan. See the discussion at:

http://forum.a-10.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8225

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Also, haven't read it, but here is the other book Dice was mentioning...

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_n9398808
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_n7466263
http://www.warbirdforum.com/warthog.htm

Also see another article by "Goldie" Haun, this one on FAC'ing...

http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/aupress/cat ... _about.htm

You can download the PDF version.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>"The Warthog and the close air support debate", <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Douglas N. Campbell

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=books

Both great reads!<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Whoop! One more...

http://www.usni.org/resources/CAS/campb ... primer.htm

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Damn, obviously a slow day at the office. Here's a good AU web site for CAS books/articles...

http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/closeair.htm

OK, back to the action! <img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Guess we told you!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

And for light reading, from AU Press: "Air-To-Ground: Battle for Italy" B.Gen. Michael C McCarthy (Ret)

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Edited by - 30mike-mike on Apr 13 2005 04:40 AM

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WOW, thanks for the back-up M2/30MM!! <img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I knew I was asking the right crowd! lol thanks. It looks like I'll have to add Campbell's book to the 'A-10 Shelf'. I'm a bit embarrassed too I'd forgotten about AU, always a good source, I do want to read 'Goldie's' work thanks. There's also a big mention of him in Ross Simpson's 'Stealth Down' a very exciting read and one that gives good credit to the Hog in determining the 'outcome' of the rescue.

Thanks again


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Sorry it took so long, dice. We'll try to do better next time and get it under 10 minutes.<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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these were posted at SIMHQ

Douglas Campbell's(The Warthog and the Close Air Support Debate ) and Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II
by Peter Smith
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 31-4941518

Desert Litening
http://www.simhq.com/_air2/air_072a.html

History of the A-10
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/a10history/

Former A-10 Pilot Andy Bush from SIMHQ
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/interviews/andybush/

Hogs in Bosnia
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/a10combat/

this was a great read, how some of the A-10s were in FAQ and kept flying around and around refueling many times to take out some hidden Anti Aircraft guns.

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I never heard of a few of those, including the stuff by "Goldie" Haun. He's assigned to my jet, pretty cool guy. I'll definitely be giving those a read now.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Sorry it took so long, dice. We'll try to do better next time and get it under 10 minutes.<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

You're killing me here, man, almost shit myself laughing! That was classic!

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Just a little ray of sunshine in your otherwise gloomy Belgian day, MMM.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/aupress/cat ... un_B90.htm

It's a great read!

Also, coming soon, a new one from Don Logan. See the discussion at:

http://forum.a-10.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8225

Cheers! M2


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Flew with the author. Great dude...

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If you're trying to make some of us jealous...it's working!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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ok ok just so you know my piddly little printer has been chugging away churning out 'Goldie' Haun's "Airpower Versus a Fielded Force". Excellent reading and all 90 some odd pages now occupies an important spot in the 'file'. Thanks to all of you for pointing me in the right direction.


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IMHO MR Campbell's book is a "must read" to understand the politices behind the A-10, past and present .

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It's on it's way from amazon as we speak, Dice. btw great lookin patch!Thanks.


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It's on it's way from amazon as we speak, Dice. btw great lookin patch!Thanks.

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So you got yours already?

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sure did, came in the mail yesterday.


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