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PostPosted: 08 Oct 2005, 18:58 
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Yojimbo reminded me on SIMHQ that you used to work on these prior to the Hog. This is the Collins Foundation F-4, it's been parked at Pease for about a month hitting a few local airshows. My friend who manages the FBO which has the military fuel contracts drove me over before she headed out last Saturday for a quick flyover up in Stowe Vt

Let me know if you would like a larger copy?

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This is her on the return trip a short time later
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Thats a SWEET !C-model F-4


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Thanks for letting me know the model, my father in law worked on these back in the day and was trying to explain to me how to tell but I still don't know.

I thought it was odd that it didn't smoke on the final approach like you normally see from F-4s, could they have modified the engines so they no longer do that?

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Nice shots TG, must have been loud when the Phantom when over your head that low. Thanks for the offer but, I worked the F-4E/Gs and not this model.

All the phantoms were upgraded to "low smoke" engine in the mid to late 80s. The engines had updated burnner-cans and fuel spray nozzels which allowed the J-79s to burn fuel better and reduced the smoke they produced.

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thanks for that info Dice, it's been that long since I'd seen a Phantom.

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That ones a 'D' model, according to the Collings website.

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C or D looked pretty much the same I thought the "D'S" were navy versions?
We know for sure it isnt E,G or Recky.

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That ones a 'D' model, according to the Collings website.

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according to the scramble website it's a D as well. I tried to upload the picture to Jetnet and that's what the serial number came up with.

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Most of the "D's" are externally identical to the "C's". Biggest difference was the change in the radar from the dreaded APQ-100 to the APQ-109 though some had the APA-157. The "D" could also carry a specific type of weapon, one that required a "two man concept". As for the "smokeless" (they weren't but they were a whole bunch better than the dash 15's) engines, the "D" originally had the J79-15's but I believe the -17's could be retrofitted without any change to the airframe.

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