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...and so it has began...

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Ugly But Well Hung

The only constant in life is change.

The Second Amendment: America's original homeland security.

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....and I can't wait until they are back....trips down to Valdosta will be even more fun......bumping into old friends around every corner....

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Wonder if they will keep the FT or change to the MY, like when they flew out of England AFB and carried the LA tail code? <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ugly But Well Hung

Sounds sort of like a case of Deja-Vu for the "Hawg's"?

I mean heading to Valdosta and being back in the muggy humid air that we all so loved while @ England AFB!
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I bet they Keep the FT on the tails,but then again "Who KNOWS, they might wipe the TEETH OFF for good<img src=newicons/madani.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_cussing.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>"

But I bet there's alot of folks at Moody that cant wait,while some folks at Pope get the "SHAFT" stuck to them.

They'll probably get moved around to other Airframes,let go but as soon as they hit the Gate, They'll get orders to report to the Army.
Reserve time in the IRR.

gOOSE

LIVE FREE OR DIE

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Goose are you dissing on the iraqi Irregular reinforcemnet..


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-Genghis Khan

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No the "I'm Really Reamed"! Reserve Forces.

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Goose

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For the record(whatever it's worth)
The tail "buzz" letters for England AFB in the hog days were "EL" not "LA"..those were on the less beautiful F-15s...when we sent the hogs to Pope in 1992 TAC(remember them???) asked us to come up with new buzz letters for the tails..."FT " was a natural as it appeared in Flying Tigers, FayeTteville, and FT Bragg!...at least that is how I sold it to the TAC weenies!...of course the FLYING TIGERS was the only one that really mattered...my guess....when they get to Moody...."MY" will be the choice. Ceers to all you hog lovers!

Col R. C. Lemon

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Col,

Bad on me,for missing the "LA" on the tail,went right past me.
I have no excuse their my intials EL <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>
Thats right you were incharge of that move to POPE AFB.

We'll have to see,the F-4E's at Moody in their day Looked good with
"MY" on their tails.


Goose

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Ugly But Well Hung

I sort of glad Col Lemon made that note!
I was going to say something, but being relatively new and not sure of knowing anyone on this site from my time at England, was better left alone than being tagged a "SmartAss"! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hey its a rite of passage being called a "Smartass" around here,
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Goose

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If you stick around long enough...well then your probably worth talking too....

..welcome to the assclown club

"The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see their near and dear bathed in tears, to ride their horses and sleep on the white bellies of their wives and daughters."
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Yeah, lemme extend a warm welcome from the ACIC.

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What Thug said.

Fender
"A woman drove me to drink
and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her".
W.C. Fields

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...and so it has began...

http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=224156

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I have nothing against Moody, I still think it's a load of crap though. There used to be Hawgs at Moody, BRAC got rid of them, now BRAC is moving Hawgs TO Moody. I guess this means that all the money that was going to be saved by moving them out of Moody has been saved?

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I have nothing against Moody, I still think it's a load of crap though. There used to be Hawgs at Moody, BRAC got rid of them, now BRAC is moving Hawgs TO Moody. I guess this means that all the money that was going to be saved by moving them out of Moody has been saved?


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Brac wasn't the reason the hogs left moody....

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Paving the way for A-10's at Moody,


Air base home to fighters againThe Kansas Air National Guard at McConnell Air Force Base will trade KC-135 tankers for T-38 jet fighters.BY PHYLLIS JACOBS GRIEKSPOORThe Wichita EagleThe Kansas Air National Guard at McConnell Air Force Base will return to the business of training jet fighter pilots, according to an announcement Thursday from the offices of U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts and Rep. Todd Tiahrt.

The Air Guard wing known as the "Flying Jayhawks of the 184th" has been operating KC-135 tankers, an assignment slated to move to Topeka under the latest round of Base Realignment and Closure Commission recommendations.

The new mission will involve the transfer of at least one 30-plane squadron of T-38 jet fighter training aircraft from Moody Air Force Base in Georgia, Tiahrt spokesman Chuck Knapp said Thursday. He said a formal announcement is expected in two to three weeks.

It is uncertain how many jobs the change entails or what the support structure for the mission, such as aircraft maintenance, will be.

The announcement took the local Guard unit somewhat by surprise.
"We knew that there had been some discussion going on, but we didn't get advance notice on this," said Hans Neidhardt, executive officer of the 184th.

The Guard had geared up for an expanded intelligence and munitions handling mission and had begun planning for an air support operations squadron to work with troops from Fort Riley training at the Smoky Hill bomb range.

Neidhardt said it is uncertain how the latest decision might affect those missions.

The Flying Jayhawks have a history of fighter training. The unit was assigned fighter jets from September 1946 when it became the 127th Fighter Squadron to July 1994 when it received the B-1B bomber mission.

In spite of that history, one of the first challenges of the new mission will be finding and training fighter pilot instructors, said wing vice-commander Randy "Sears" Roebuck.

Because the unit hasn't flown fighters for 12 years, its cadre of fighter pilots is long gone, he said. Many of the unit's current members do have experience as instructor pilots in the B-1B or the KC-135, however.

And reductions elsewhere have left fighter pilots looking for new slots, he said.

"The Kansas Air National Guard has a rich tradition in flying missions critical to our national security," Roberts said in a statement. "This decision by the Air Force illustrates what Todd and I already know -- that the men and women of the Kansas Air National Guard are some of the best airmen in the force."

There are more than 2,250 airmen in the Kansas Air National Guard.
Maj. Gen. Tod Bunting, adjutant general of the Kansas National Guard, said the decision was part of routine Air Force program adjustments and not related to the base reductions and closing process.

"We're definitely going back to the training days with lots of airplanes flying around the state," Bunting said.
Roberts said the next focus will be trying to make sure that McConnell gets as many planes as possible.

The active duty 22nd Air Refueling Wing at McConnell is expected to expand by 24 tankers to a total of 48, making it the largest tanker base in the United States.

Kansas was expected to gain more than 3,580 military and civilian jobs statewide as a result of the BRAC announcement, including several thousand soldiers at


capche-capche da - we go forward together

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Supposedly we will be getting the word within a month or two of whos DEROS's are going to be frozen at Eielson until the jets leave. I have heard every date between Oct 06 and Oct 07, and that the jets will be leaving ranging from all pretty quick and close together to slow and drug out ouver 2 years. Rumors are everywhere. This is all so far above my paygrade I just have to ignore it. I'll believe it when I get an assingment rip or my DEROS gets pushed back and we start hanging travel pods.

They say that the only two things certain in life are death and taxes. I prefer them in that order.

Like it or not, some of us are really going to hate seeing the A-10 back here at Moody. That means I aint got no job when they get here!!!!!!

Bob,

Don't be so sure about that. I'm sure there will be some civilian positons created by this move, we just have to wait and see.

As for the loss of jobs, keep that in mind when it comes time for local and state elections. We both know how much they fought for keeping the training mission here and I sure won't forget it.

(brac) "On to Moody, is there anyone here from Moody? anyone? Ok then the brac recommendations for Moody are approved"

capche-capche da - we go forward together

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Topeka KS, McConnell AFB at one time was home to the 23RD TFW,years ago.One squadron either the 75th or 74th was stationed there with
F-105 Wild Weasels, And when the 23RD got A-7's and moved to Alex
McConnell was given the SAC role
Alot of Hurr-a-vac's there.


Goose

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin,
(1706 - 1790)

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I sure hope some slots open Glen. But remember, what ever you do dont go to Echols County of Tift County. Joe Budd will be waiting for us in Tift!

He's planning to move to Moody? What, and give up those cushy digs in Vatican City? They must have offered him some tremendous tax incentives in Georgia.

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