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LOL, that's great.

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Boy you got that right.

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Thanks for posting Dice. Just feeling the pain I guess with all the silly re-writes they are doing to the software on my babies down here.

That was perfect! Because Crewdawg's can understand pictures, not all those "Big Words"

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ROFL......too true..too true.

Chili, you poundin pavement again?

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Thanks for posting Dice. Just feeling the pain I guess with all the silly re-writes they are doing to the software on my babies down here.


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I talked to a friend of mine down at Eglin...he said the 2 C models they have aren't having half the problems that the birds at Nellis are....who knows...

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Josh, I am not pounding the pavement yet...still got another year at the group to take care of yet, but i did get pulled out of the office twice to go fix write-ups that they couldn't figure out. I also helped throw up an engine so they could get a jet TDY. Thunders OIC got fired last week for protecting the troops and calling a "knock it off". I am telling you things here are getting a little crazy. <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I talked to a friend of mine down at Eglin...he said the 2 C models they have aren't having half the problems that the birds at Nellis are....who knows...
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It is nice when you have a team of engineers inbedded with your unit to immediatley diagnose and fix problems on the spot....we don't have that here at Nellis. I do however remember going to Eglin a year ago and fixing 2 severe engine write-ups they had that they couldn't figure out. We ended up fixing the jets for them so they could fly with our test birds. The problem is that the engineers and designers on this project aren't looking at it like a Air Force Maintenance troop. They really need to realize after all is said and done that it is going to fall to the 18 yr old airman straight from tech school to be able to fix the aircraft....not the MIT graduate who has nothing but time to play in a simulator, and then look at us the ground pounder and ask us in their condicending way why it didn't work because it seemed to work fine in the simulator.





Edited by - chili_kerch on May 01 2006 07:59

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Josh, I am not pounding the pavement yet...still got another year at the group to take care of yet, but i did get pulled out of the office twice to go fix write-ups that they couldn't figure out. I also helped throw up an engine so they could get a jet TDY. Thunders OIC got fired last week for protecting the troops and calling a "knock it off". I am telling you things here are getting a little crazy. <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I talked to a friend of mine down at Eglin...he said the 2 C models they have aren't having half the problems that the birds at Nellis are....who knows...
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The problem is that the engineers and designers on this project aren't looking at it like a Air Force Maintenance troop. They really need to realize after all is said and done that it is going to fall to the 18 yr old airman straight from tech school to be able to fix the aircraft....not the MIT graduate who has nothing but time to play in a simulator, and then look at us the ground pounder and ask us in their condicending way why it didn't work because it seemed to work fine in the simulator.

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Engineers never design anything with maintainers in mind!!!!

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Alot of "GREAT OFFICERS" got "Differant" Jobs and I dont mean "Promotions". Standing-up for the Troops.
They would "Chew your ass-out!" but would back you up when you needed it.

Sounds like the C models might be getting some of the bugs worked out as they get more done.

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When Eglin "isn't seeing" as many problems what they are really saying is Not Looking. The DT is combined between units and Nellis is taking the brunt of that DT burden. Eglin can't and won't be able to support PE development with 2 jets, Nellis is often feeling out the systems much much more throughly than Eglin has the oppontunity to with their sortie count.

Chili, mail me at my mil addy.

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prkiii

When Eglin "isn't seeing" as many problems what they are really saying is Not Looking. The DT is combined between units and Nellis is taking the brunt of that DT burden. Eglin can't and won't be able to support PE development with 2 jets, Nellis is often feeling out the systems much much more throughly than Eglin has the oppontunity to with their sortie count.

Chili, mail me at my mil addy.


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Understand and agree...I was just "passing on" what I was told....I've heard the complaints from both Eglin & Nellis on the C model....

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LMAO..Who said you can't teach an old dog? You're learning Dice. And don't think I don't want to jump into the fray..pass me the yellow ochre please.

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Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints

ROFL Dice!!!!

Don't hold back Man.....you don't answer to anybody in this arena any more, you put in your time and it only ended up with an ulcer for all your hard work. Screw those suckers who give us the A$$ Pains. I think we should take off May 1st in protest of the A-10C Maintenance pains. Oh wait....the imigrants beat us to that whole protesting thing.....NUTZ!

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Your doing just fine Dice.

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Dice, Chief, Chili....you guys are right. The rant has been made and avoided at the same time. This program will make a great "There I was" conversation over a beer in a few years.

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