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Hello everyone. First off, I'd like to say this is a great site. Lots of good info and plenty of pictures!

I stumbled upon this site trying to hunt down some info on a paticular A-10 that I saw in a Military Aircraft encyclepedia. The Hog in question had some interesting camo that I haven't seen before. The camo was a very dark grey/black and very light grey/white. Well, after hours and hours of searching for more pics I have only found one and it was here on this site. Here it is: http://www.a-10.org/photos/p.asp?FileName=a10winter%2Ejpg

Does anyone have any info on this jet? The caption under the pic in the book said it was stationed in Alaska. That's realky all I know. I'm a model builder and would love to build this paticular jet but I need to know what the decals should be. What base, squadron, etc. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

This is also the only picture that I knew. Found it in a book, when I am back home (sit on work now) I shall try to get more information.
For sure I know it is not a normal color scheme.

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343rd Composite Wing, Kotzebue Air Station, Alaska 1982. It was just another one of the test camo patterns, IIRC.

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It was a test winter pattern. It was tried and it died. Not adopted.

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Wow! Thanks for the info, guys. Just a test pattern, huh? It's a shame because it looks really cool. I wonder why they scratched it? Too visible?

Anyway, I still may build it. Thanks again for the replies.

Found in the book: "Modern Fighting Aircraft A-10"(isbn 0 686101 123 6, for those who want this book) Another picture made on the ground and also in color (just like the other one)
By the picture they told the plane is based in Eielson afb. And the picture was made at Exercise Cool Snow Hog 82-1. Maybe with this and the information from 30mike-mike can you find more.
Let us know if it is.

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Thats when they were testing the "Lizard" cammo too,the one with the Spots on it.

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I remember this comming up before, found an old post on it. I have seen some other shots of the snow hog in a magazine article, thought I may have saved them but they not to be found.

http://forum.a-10.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2899

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Thats when they were testing the "Lizard" cammo too,the one with the Spots on it.

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Just so we're clear here, the "spotted camo scheme" was the JAWS (Joint Attack Weapons System II) scheme applyed at Nellis in 1977.

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So, according to the other topic the colors are not black and white but instead the dark green and white? Hmm.

Thanks for the info, fellas. I really appreciate it.

The winter cammo simply replaced the lighter green with white, and the dark gray is still present and visible. I've heard several stories on how it was applied, by brush with latex house paint, but I also have another pic that show a fairly well applied white. You may also wish to contact the base the exercises took place at and see if the PR or history guys have anything more.

This is what I was told when I asked the same question:

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>"The "winter" scheme was done during a brim frost exercise from Eielson AFB, AK. It was done with white latex house paint (!!!!!) and they simply painted over one color of the old European paint scheme. It looked terrible up close, runs and drips in the paint everywhere! Couldn't get the damn paint off after the exercise and that airframe picked up the nickname "ghost". I believe it was 79-222, but I may be mistaken. I have seen pictures of it in some old books. It was not "black/white" as stated in the Tech Series Vol. 20 book.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>You're right...the house paint leached into the green paint and wouldn't come all the way out. Had to re-paint the jet."<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Now, the problem with the "white brush painted over lighter green" response is this pic, which definitely looks black (or dark gunship gray) to me. It may be the dark patches are really the dark gray cammo portions, and it just happens that no dark green portions are in view of the camera. It could be the result of the intense arctic sun and ice making the green look black, or a result of copying or scanning a film image to a computer.

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You may wish to run a google image search with a-10, warthog, thunderbolt, winter, snow, and white, along with base or exercise names, or even try and contact the base PR people for pics.

Good luck!


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Edited by - Horrido on Oct 09 2006 21:33

You might find this usefull, too:

http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/draw/a10snow.jpg

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You can definitely see green spots on that arctic hog Horrido. On the upper surface of the wing just outboard of the wing root.

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Hogs dont like snow or is that the crewchiefs dont? You can tell a little there is green showing.

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Edited by - sgtgoose1 on Oct 10 2006 04:47

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IIRC painting white over the camo was what the Germans did on the Eastern Front, too. It tended to wear off, letting the original factory paint show thru, as ops continued.

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Horrido, thank you so much. That is some very good info. Especially the link you dropped! Thanks for the picture, as well. Much better than the one I found.

I may go ahead and contact the base if I can't find anything else on my own. I'll defenitely post anything I find here.

Thank you very much!